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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bill,
Before I forget it, thank you so much for the compliments: very flattering.

You are so right about the need for having a set of rules to guide us. GTD, implemented properly, will let us get stuff done &quot;despite ourselves.&quot; If you use the rules of GTD properly, it&#039;s darned near impossible to not get stuff done.

While I haven&#039;t been officially diagnosed with ADHD (that would require that I see a doctor :) ), I sure have some of its symptoms. So, I should find the rules of GTD to be helpful to me, and they have been. One of my problems, though, actually a problem and a blessing, is that I have a bit of a rebellious streak: anytime I see a rule, I ask &quot;why that rule, why is it needed, can I do without it, ....?&quot; In other words, I have this deep internal belief that one can carry rules too far, and that it is ultimately better to think for oneself. This has been a characteristic that has served me well on occasion, and that has screwed me good on others. But, it&#039;s the way I am wired. So, that&#039;s why I rail against a rule every once in a while on this blog: I believe people should question things. Like I said, though, and as you pointed out very clearly, sometimes it&#039;s just better to go with the rules because very often they work.

Anywho, I am rambling now. Too many things on my mind, so I&#039;ll close out by thanking you again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bill,<br />
Before I forget it, thank you so much for the compliments: very flattering.</p>
<p>You are so right about the need for having a set of rules to guide us. GTD, implemented properly, will let us get stuff done &#8220;despite ourselves.&#8221; If you use the rules of GTD properly, it&#8217;s darned near impossible to not get stuff done.</p>
<p>While I haven&#8217;t been officially diagnosed with ADHD (that would require that I see a doctor <img src='http://www.keenerliving.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  ), I sure have some of its symptoms. So, I should find the rules of GTD to be helpful to me, and they have been. One of my problems, though, actually a problem and a blessing, is that I have a bit of a rebellious streak: anytime I see a rule, I ask &#8220;why that rule, why is it needed, can I do without it, &#8230;.?&#8221; In other words, I have this deep internal belief that one can carry rules too far, and that it is ultimately better to think for oneself. This has been a characteristic that has served me well on occasion, and that has screwed me good on others. But, it&#8217;s the way I am wired. So, that&#8217;s why I rail against a rule every once in a while on this blog: I believe people should question things. Like I said, though, and as you pointed out very clearly, sometimes it&#8217;s just better to go with the rules because very often they work.</p>
<p>Anywho, I am rambling now. Too many things on my mind, so I&#8217;ll close out by thanking you again.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Myers</title>
		<link>http://www.keenerliving.com/filling-your-inbox-gtd#comment-26588</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Myers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 15:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bruce: &quot;...I think we are in agreement that capturing stuff = essential and that having a completely empty inbox = an artificial rule...&quot;

If we&#039;re using the term &quot;inbox&quot; the same way, then I don&#039;t think we were in agreement. I don&#039;t like to let things I&#039;ve tossed into an inbox (or that arrive in an inbox by their very nature, like e-mail and voicemail) sit unprocessed for more than a day.  If my inboxes pile up, I become numb to them and tend to ignore them. 

I re-read your post prior to writing this one. One sentence jumped out at me on the second reading: &quot;If it helps give you a psychological boost that you need, similar to how one feels when the desk is finally clean, then it may be worth striving for.&quot;

Okay. Got it. NOW we&#039;re in agreement.

I have ADHD and tend to apply GTD fairly rigorously because I desperately need some sort of external structure (I don&#039;t think that need is unique to ADHDers, but I believe we tend to need it *more*). I sometimes forget that GTD, like anything else, is a system of ideas and guidelines. They may work for some and not for others. I guess it doesn&#039;t matter if you have a running list of 50 unanswered e-mails as long as the 50 you have this week aren&#039;t the same ones you had two weeks ago! :) The &quot;inbox to zero&quot; approach works for me but that doesn&#039;t mean it is universally needed.

This is one of the reasons I like to come to this blog. Reading your posts often exposes for me assumptions I didn&#039;t know I was making, and once exposed, they can be challenged. You have a (no pun intended) keen and logical mind, and I am grateful to you for sharing your gifts.

I&#039;ll strive to contribute new knowledge in future posts, rather than simply reiterating what you&#039;ve already said (and said better). :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce: &#8220;&#8230;I think we are in agreement that capturing stuff = essential and that having a completely empty inbox = an artificial rule&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>If we&#8217;re using the term &#8220;inbox&#8221; the same way, then I don&#8217;t think we were in agreement. I don&#8217;t like to let things I&#8217;ve tossed into an inbox (or that arrive in an inbox by their very nature, like e-mail and voicemail) sit unprocessed for more than a day.  If my inboxes pile up, I become numb to them and tend to ignore them. </p>
<p>I re-read your post prior to writing this one. One sentence jumped out at me on the second reading: &#8220;If it helps give you a psychological boost that you need, similar to how one feels when the desk is finally clean, then it may be worth striving for.&#8221;</p>
<p>Okay. Got it. NOW we&#8217;re in agreement.</p>
<p>I have ADHD and tend to apply GTD fairly rigorously because I desperately need some sort of external structure (I don&#8217;t think that need is unique to ADHDers, but I believe we tend to need it *more*). I sometimes forget that GTD, like anything else, is a system of ideas and guidelines. They may work for some and not for others. I guess it doesn&#8217;t matter if you have a running list of 50 unanswered e-mails as long as the 50 you have this week aren&#8217;t the same ones you had two weeks ago! <img src='http://www.keenerliving.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  The &#8220;inbox to zero&#8221; approach works for me but that doesn&#8217;t mean it is universally needed.</p>
<p>This is one of the reasons I like to come to this blog. Reading your posts often exposes for me assumptions I didn&#8217;t know I was making, and once exposed, they can be challenged. You have a (no pun intended) keen and logical mind, and I am grateful to you for sharing your gifts.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll strive to contribute new knowledge in future posts, rather than simply reiterating what you&#8217;ve already said (and said better). <img src='http://www.keenerliving.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://www.keenerliving.com/filling-your-inbox-gtd#comment-26586</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill, as best as I can tell, we are saying pretty much the same things, not that that matters: having different views is a great way to learn from each other. But, I think we are in agreement that capturing stuff = essential and that having a completely empty inbox = an artificial rule, made up by someone who needs to have a lot of rules in their life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill, as best as I can tell, we are saying pretty much the same things, not that that matters: having different views is a great way to learn from each other. But, I think we are in agreement that capturing stuff = essential and that having a completely empty inbox = an artificial rule, made up by someone who needs to have a lot of rules in their life.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Myers</title>
		<link>http://www.keenerliving.com/filling-your-inbox-gtd#comment-26585</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Myers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I question whether using one&#039;s inbox appropriately and keeping it at or near zero are incompatible goals. An inbox is a great staging area for unprocessed &quot;stuff&quot; (as David Allen calls any inputs one hasn&#039;t processed) but a very poor place for long-term retention, action reminders, etc.  

A lot of the inputs in my life don&#039;t need to be in-boxed, anyway. Often an idea that comes into my head can be processed instantly, such as when I notice something that needs doing and whip out my PDA to capture it in the appropriate action list. 

Many of my in-boxes &quot;quiet down&quot; after hours, like e-mail and voicemail, so I can process those to zero at the end of the day. I also go through my moleskine every night before bed and process any &quot;stuff&quot; I&#039;ve jotted down in there.

I&#039;m not trying to pick an argument. In fact, we may be saying the same thing but in slightly different ways. Still, thought I&#039;d drop by and weigh in. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I question whether using one&#8217;s inbox appropriately and keeping it at or near zero are incompatible goals. An inbox is a great staging area for unprocessed &#8220;stuff&#8221; (as David Allen calls any inputs one hasn&#8217;t processed) but a very poor place for long-term retention, action reminders, etc.  </p>
<p>A lot of the inputs in my life don&#8217;t need to be in-boxed, anyway. Often an idea that comes into my head can be processed instantly, such as when I notice something that needs doing and whip out my PDA to capture it in the appropriate action list. </p>
<p>Many of my in-boxes &#8220;quiet down&#8221; after hours, like e-mail and voicemail, so I can process those to zero at the end of the day. I also go through my moleskine every night before bed and process any &#8220;stuff&#8221; I&#8217;ve jotted down in there.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not trying to pick an argument. In fact, we may be saying the same thing but in slightly different ways. Still, thought I&#8217;d drop by and weigh in. <img src='http://www.keenerliving.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Susan aka gasusan2005</title>
		<link>http://www.keenerliving.com/filling-your-inbox-gtd#comment-26575</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan aka gasusan2005</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 12:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>list pro!! :)
My kids laugh at me... I have notepads (small yellow legal pads) everywhere....car, kitchen, bedside table, desk....so that I can jot things down so I don&#039;t forget them...

I have always written things down...so I don&#039;t forget... and then add them to list pro or calendar when I get a chance!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>list pro!! <img src='http://www.keenerliving.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
My kids laugh at me&#8230; I have notepads (small yellow legal pads) everywhere&#8230;.car, kitchen, bedside table, desk&#8230;.so that I can jot things down so I don&#8217;t forget them&#8230;</p>
<p>I have always written things down&#8230;so I don&#8217;t forget&#8230; and then add them to list pro or calendar when I get a chance!</p>
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